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Authors Peter Dale Scott and David Talbot join Mickey for a discussion of the now-popular phrase "deep state," 
and its implications. They also share their thoughts on the best way forward for the left in the Trump era.
Peter Dale Scott is a retired diplomat and prolific author on politics and history; among his books are "Deep Politics 
and the Death of JFK," and "Drugs, Oil and War." David Talbot is the founder of Salon.com, and now a columnist for 
the San Francisco Chronicle; his most recent book is "The Devil's Chessboard."  
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